DSL Ideas and Suggestions :: Is it time to go beyond 50 MB?



Quote (AwPhuch @ June 09 2004,16:41)
I like the idea of having all the apps as .dsl extensions...

Make a true "BASE" release (probably way below 50 megs) with the standard releases even no xdesktop. Then ppl can
burn thier own DSL cd using whatever apps they want...

Who needs the monkey server and stuff like that if they dont use it, games when they dont want them, other apps as well...

Just like DEBIAN there is a "BASE" install of the os, then you decide what you want later...makes for a more dynamic and easy to use system...tailored for what you want it to be...great idea!

Brian
AwPhuch

I was replyinig to something similar on another post, about a dsl-core.iso they could do with basic but fully functional core CLI tools, X.org, fluxbox and dillo for basic setups.

everything else could be in the myDSL directory and loaded with a myDSL.sh script of sorts that's in the menu.

basic apps could be (for example, and in the core)  dillo, irssi, wget, mutt, ssmtp, rxvt, mc (or functional equivalent), smbclient (maybe not core, but could be), and whatever is the smallext X txt editor.

Those are some ideas, but it would be nice to do these b/c many people don't need 2 CLI text editors, 2 gui text editors, 2 gui file managers, 2 gui mail clients etc.  While I respect the admins (and my black hat's off for their efforts too) for coming up with DSL as I use it everyday on my laptop*, some things could be changed.  Heck, even a re-write from scratch to provide true debian (not a fan personally, but if you're going to do it, it's best to make it work 100%) support and a dsl compatible twist (myDSL could be an "on-cd" apt-get repository??).

Anyways, that's just a suggestion. I can't put money where my mouth is just yet b/c I'm still doing linuxfromscratch.org to learn the in's -n- out's of linux (I'm excited too), but if the DSL team could do this many people might be more apt (no pun intended) to download and install / use it!

Heck, even if in the core ISO one could chose between ATI or nVidia drivers (or even if we had to build our own ISO) that would kick ass too. I have the ATI RADEON 9000 64MB on my system now and I'm sure full on OpenGL support for video cards would really be worthwhile to some people.

Anyways, rant mode off. If it comes true, many will rejoice. If not, no  harm done :)

FOSS for life!!

* My laptop specs:
2.0GHz Pentium 4 M
1.0GB PC2700 DDR RAM
40GB HDD (4200 rpm)
i810 intel audio
ATI RADEON 9000 64MB video (will change to nVidia if possible, ATI linux drivers SUCK!)
Touch pad/keyboard nipple for mouse
USB (works with usb mouse and thumbdrive as /dev/sda1!!)
PCMCIA, wireless works with linksys wireless G card, and usb 2.0 cardbus adapter)
DVD/CDRW, working with cdrao, gcomust and grip (I'm sure with other CLI apps)
All keyboard keys work.
15" screen resolution at 1600x1200 at 32b color

Never had any problems (cept in driver support from various distros) from this laptop. I love it!

[EDIT}
you posted the answer on another post...thanks
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What brand/model is your laptop ?
If DSL is working fine on yours, might be a suggestion for
a "next time" purchase...
So many of us have struggled getting laptops 100% functional.
I have been fortunate with my laptops and DSL is working fine here.

Thanks

73
ke4nt

zoloto -

If you are looking for a full-blown debian based distro with nvidia support, download the last stable version of MEPIS. Nvidia is built in. Spin up the cd and you're playing tux racer! I have an ASUS GeForce 4 ti4200 128mb card and it worked great. They took nvidia support out for the new betas so make sure you look at the last stable. I believe it was 2003.10.02.

Chris

I like the speed of DSL. It boots rather fast and I have a desktop in no time. I realize that business card cds are becoming a rarity but i still use 700 mb disk for my DSL burns.

"Why, at that size you might as well use Knoppix," one might say.

Nope. My DSL will race your Knoppix and i will have google, slashdot, or my webmail up before you get Konquer up and loaded.

One thing i would like to see is recient libs in the release. I have noticed that there is a core set missing that must be the base of most Debian packages. Ah well. Why bigger? All you do is slow down your system. DSL started =<50 mb and should stay =<50 for its days.

Opp, lookie there! You finaly got mozilla to load on your knoppix. I wrote this in the time it took your LiveDisk to load. HA! :p

Slax (http://slax.linux-live.org/) is good for 200mb if you're looking for a distro that size. And it boots even faster than dsl if you load the modules manually.
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