DSL Ideas and Suggestions :: icons look and feel



Quote (curaga @ Nov. 30 2007,08:55)
Hey, can someone explain what the DSGL meant, for us non-US?



I was being silly. DSGL,  Damn Small Generic Linux, or better yet Damn Small Granny's Linux.

re: "inconsistent look and homogenous set of objects"
Sounds like an integrated desktop. Not going to happen in 50MB.

Most of the custom developement of GUIs in DSL is using murgaLua which is a Lua FLTK binding. Therefore should we use flwm window manager as it too uses FLTK . (Actually that is the wm that I use most often)

We have a mix of UI in the applications from Ted, Siag (Mowitz), Gtk1 and Fltk. I don't see how this going to change.

I am open to adding more icons on the desktop. But then one will have to delete icons. The trend I was seeing was requests for the opposite with posts like "how can I removed these icons?"

Huh, I'd hate to see DSL turn into "generic".. There's something unique that should not disappear.
Well, I have to side with john.martzouco here. I don't t think he's asking for much, some cosmetic changes and/or help system perhaps. I've always been an advocate for idiot proof systems.

Geeks like us wanting to tailor the system usually have the talent to do it but those less gifted will struggle. It may be enough to put them off, so first impressions do mean a lot.

If this is not direction for DSL, so be it. It's already surpassed my dreams. A suggestion for john.martzouco would be to tailor the system yourself before handing it to your aunt.

Quote (humpty @ Nov. 30 2007,16:04)
I've always been an advocate for idiot proof systems.

It already is (idiot proof). The idiots will have to use Vista.

Edit: thinking more about "idiot proof"...reminds me of the (supposedly) true story about a guy who called tech support when his computer stopped working.  The techie asked him to check the cables, but was told that he couldn't see them because the electricity was out.  The techie allegedly was fired after systematically  having the guy pack up his computer.

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What I don't like are the mini-icons on the command menus.  They look amateurish and reduce the professionalism of the product.  They are crude, ill-matched.  They are so low in resolution that they are not easily distinguishable from each other and they are distracting when trying to read the commands on the menus.  The same can be said of the heavy font that is used on these menus in JWM... it is too hard to read.

1. You can remove the icons by editing your .jwmrc file.
2. Or you can find icons you like to replace the default set.
3. You can use a font you actually like by editing .jwmrc.

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JWM is no better than the Microsoft desktop.  Fluxbox offers functionality that makes it easier to organize the desktop.

Oh geez -- there's nothing "wrong" with a Microsoft desktop. Most interfaces are common whether it's MS, Mac, or the more common X desktop environments. All a window manager does is (optionally) decorate application instances and keep them separated. JWM isn't a desktop environment, and it does EVERYthing fluxbox can do -- and some of those things, it does better than fluxbox. It's very configurable, too.

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the something that can be controlled... the capitalizations used for captions on the 3.4 desktop.  They are whacky.  Siag starts with a capital letter.  xGVW doesn't.  Maybe some are all lower-case.  I don't have them all in my head, but I remember it's a hodge-podge.

That has nothing to do with DSL, it's a matter of each project. Does DSL need to include symlinks with every imaginable variation? Why stop there? Why is KDE capitalized and Xfce or Gnome not?

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Coming from Windows, the bootup options are a completely unfamiliar concept.

They wouldn't be so unique if people would read the documentation first -- doesn't matter if it's Linux, Mac, or Windows, the biggest hurdle to getting the most out of any system is the user's knowledge (or lack thereof).

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