DSL Ideas and Suggestions :: wish list, 2.6

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3. Sell a base system along with CD's (or USB keys...) containing the MyDSL applications. I would happily carry around 2 or 3 CD's or USB keys to have everything I need. It also gives you a new revenue stream.

I just noticed that PCLinuxOS sells access to a high bandwidth repository (server) for a $20 contribution, and confines the CD image to a base system That might not be a bad way to generate some expense money.

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If DSL got gtk2, Xorg, and 2.6...

Well, dsln has 2.6 and gtk2 but not xorg and it's 95MB. I guess dropping back to gtk1 and removing some of the included apps will save some space but then moving from 2.6.12 to 2.6.19(?) will probably take additional space.

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Personally I would want 2.6 kernel compiled...

A late(ish) version of 2.6 would be great for wireless, ntfsmount, video, laptops, etc. Knowing what the kernel & libs of this new version of dsl was compiled from (and having the headers) would certainly be a big help when compiling new apps.

I did not mean puppy is the only one with that combination. I meant it's the closest competitor. And if DSL made itself 'generic', partly with that move, people would still not be happy, as the libs would need removing apps to keep in 50mb. And the user base would drop.

I've been following this thread with interest.

Personally, I would like to see the core as bare as possible with almost everything modular. You can still package some of these modules into a base iso. Most basic users would have no idea that anything is different, however, advanced DSL users would be able to unpack the iso, add/remove modules to create their optimal configuration.

That is my DSL dream.

Chris

newby

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1. Build distros with applications geared to different users, office, music, video, games, etc. Downside: more work.

You left out larger size. How is it "damn small" if each of your specialty versions is 300-500 MB? Users can use the same modular base in conjunction with MyDSL to accomplish whichever tasks they want, whether specialized or general use. Another problem with creating multiple specialty versions is most people will resort to using MyDSL anyway. Just use the same small, modular base and let users customize it as they see fit. That's the idea behind modularity.

The downside of it being more work is *the biggest* problem. Robert has had more than enough work maintaining syslinux and isolinux versions of everything, 3.x and 4.x, DSL and DSL-N. Lighten the load, don't increase it.

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2. Build application _suites_ geared toward the different audiences and pair them with a base DSL that they can be loaded into.

Same problem as above. That goes against the Damn Small philosophy, too, by including things that users may not care to have. Your idea of an internet suite would probably be a lot different than mine. Office suite -- ted and siag, Open Office (which version?!), or abiword (gtk1 or 2) and gnumeric? Just let users decide what they want with respect to each extension. Easier -- and ultimately smaller -- that way.
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Juanito:

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moving from 2.6.12 to 2.6.19(?) will probably take additional space.

Definitely. And so will moving to a newer kernel if that happens (as it should, imo).

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Knowing what the kernel & libs of this new version of dsl was compiled from (and having the headers) would certainly be a big help when compiling new apps.

I'm sure you'll get all that once it's decided upon.

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