DSL Ideas and Suggestions :: Tweak for the "Getting Started" page



Someone kill this thread, please. It's going nowhere.
I think this is an important thread..I had never used linux until I was given the dsl cd by a friend and loaded it on an old machine collecting dust....I read the get started file but it did not answer all the many questions a newbie has..the forum has been helpful although I can still not get the chess board engine to work...I
I would like to see the dillo startpage remove details at the bottom of the get started page...as now that I have it installed and functioning it is anoying to distraction and makes me want to just turn off the machine...if I could get dillo to pop up with the startpage I would be happy...by startpage I mean when I go to options and put in the url of choice in the startpage box.l.nothing happens...I finally followed the path and deleted the getting started file and now dillo pops up with an error message and I just laugh...just add instructions at the bottom  of the getstarted page on next release...for solving this issue. or forget it and see endless questions on the same.BTW I installed to hd and do not see any home/dsl/xinitrc file to modify..where did that go...
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Hmm, according to what is generally accepted to be the "Real" dictionary in my country, also known as Merriam-Webster's, there is no mention of rudeness as it related to a "shared resource":

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/rude


But just for laughs, I visited Dictionary.com and looked up the common definition of the word "rude", and not suprisingly, the definition of the word is similar to M-W's aka: None of this "shared resource" stuff is mentioned.

But when I scroll down to the bottom of the dictionary.com page, I find the unedited listing of the words that you posted here.

Of course, they are taken completely out-of-context by you in a fruitless attempt to twist their meaning to justify your original over-reaction to my post.

At the bottom of the "rude" entry is a reference to the DICTIONARY OF COMPUTER JARGON

The author of the entry is referring to the concept of a "rude computer program", and not rudeness as it relates to human behavior.

Anyone not grasping at straws to prove their point would have easily understood the context.  Here is the complete entry:

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rude

[WPI] adj. 1. (of a program) Badly written. 2.
Functionally poor, e.g., a program that is very difficult to use
because of gratuitously poor (random?) design decisions. Oppose
cuspy. 3. Anything that manipulates a shared resource without
regard for its other users in such a way as to cause a (non-fatal)
problem. Examples: programs that change tty modes without resetting
them on exit, or windowing programs that keep forcing themselves to
the top of the window stack. Compare all-elbows.



Nice try.

As for the whole "Open Source Movement".  Ya got me there.  You never said the word "Movement":

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Hmm, free. Isn't that what Open Source is supposed to be all about? A free community where everyone helps each other to have reliable royalty-free software?.


There is no mention of a "Movement" in your post,  but the message of your quote is clear to me because I have heard the same song-and-dance before, many times.

I don't want to comment further because then I'd be putting words into your mouth again and you've already expressed your distaste for people that try to figure out your intent without taking the time to read your posts like they are a legal document.
/home/dsl/.xinitrc is a "hidden" file...not visible in emelfm or beaver by default.  In emelfm, you can click the "H" button or press "Ctrl+h" to show it. In beaver, type "." followed by Tab in the file selector, or type the whole filename.

When you start dillo from the fluxbox menu (/home/dsl/.fluxbox/menu), it will load the getting started page no matter what you do with Dillo's settings because it is started explicitly with the filename:
[exec] (Dillo patched) {dillo file:/usr/share/doc/dsl/getting_started.html}
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Hmm, according to what is generally accepted to be the "Real" dictionary in my country, also known as Merriam-Webster's, there is no mention of rudeness as it related to a "shared resource":

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/rude[/QUOTE]

:laugh: I like to see when people do research... It makes me feel good to know that a guru decide to look up something. I too look up your 'real' dictionary (which by the way the REAL dictionary is the Oxford dictionary, not the elementary school Merriam-Webster). Here's one of the definitions at your reference page...

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b : INELEGANT, UNCOUTH c : offensive in manner or action : DISCOURTEOUS


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RUDE implies ignorance of or indifference to good form; it may suggest intentional discourtesy <rude behavior>


Did you read your definition carpet bagger? Do you not see the words it may suggest intentional discourtesy? Your aforementioned definition...

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Insulting a specific person directly without justification = Rude

Making humorous remarks to express solidarity with other people who are sometimes frustrated by the inability of some unmentioned new users to help themselves = Not Rude


is not mentioned at your webpage. Also making humorous remarks on an online forum (which is a shared resource, available to all eyes) regardless of whom it's addressed to implies discourtesy...

Or perhaps your wondrous guru mind focused on the rough finish definition... Nice try at avoiding the direct dispute though :laugh:

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Of course, they are taken completely out-of-context by you in a fruitless attempt to twist their meaning to justify your original over-reaction to my post.


How do I twist the meaning carpet bagger? Is not the context I posted in, in concordance with the UNEDITED definitions I found on your page? Posting indirect remarks (no matter how you try to avoid this point) implies discourtesy... I do not grasp at straws carpet bagger, I simply point out to you the context in which your post appears. Yet, you find ways to dance around the point I have made by 'splitting hairs' and pointing out irrelevant points.

What is there to gain in your approach almighty guru?

Please share your 'wisdom' with this humble visitor.

For I do not see, nor understand your 'gain' here.

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Nice try.


Yes, the truth is very nice thank you.

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There is no mention of a "Movement" in your post,  but the message of your quote is clear to me because I have heard the same song-and-dance before, many times.

I don't want to comment further because then I'd be putting words into your mouth again and you've already expressed your distaste for people that try to figure out your intent without taking the time to read your posts like they are a legal document.


Again the guru has such powerful insight as to see thoughts that never existed in my mind! Oh, the great Carpet Bagger has shown his almighty power again!!! :laugh:

You still continue to try to control my actions (like putting words in my mouth) so as to prove whatever point you feel you need to make (such as pointing out my dictionary reference without mentioning that it is in concordance with your own reference). As for trying to figure intent out... Do you try to figure out intent when reading a technical manual? Chances are, probably not. So why try to figure out intent on a technical forum, when it is much simpler just to READ and THINK about what you read from other's posts as well as your own!

To lovedsl:
You can also find and edit your hidden files by typing ls in a terminal shell, and then edit the file by typing vi filename... But if you aren't familiar with command-line editors like vi. Beaver is an ok choice... I personally prefer vi, but beaver will suffice... Good advice milkshaw! :cool:

Back to CB:
Oh great guru carpet bagger! You are so wise and powerful! Please flog me some more with your rapier wit, so that you can help me display my point for all to see even better! You are such a great help in this matter! The paragon of the bad example :D

Would it not just be simpler to issue a public apology to the newcomers who have already seen your rampage? I mean, I simply point out a simple flaw in a post, and you come up with arguments that are mere distractions from the main point?.. Really, what is your 'great' wisdom behind your attacks?

To all who have made comments about Windows to me...

Who ever said I use Windows?..

I started out on computers long before both Windows and Linux were even imagined.

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The useful master shares his teachings freely. Whereas the worthless master shares his teachings while making his student feel worthless.


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The wind crashes against the ancient stone for a thousand years to no avail. Yet a simple blade of grass breaks that ancient stone in but a sngle day.
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