DSL Ideas and Suggestions :: DSL change suggestions

Looking at alternatives... http://www.appwebserver.org/ looks quite good, though slightly larger than monkeyhttpd. (But not much).

Quote (Grim @ Jan. 26 2006,02:49)

1.) Don't we still have nvi? I'll have to check

2.) cbagger is my hero

3.) I don't care which we standardise on, but I am of the opinion that we only need one for the base iso. If it were up to me it'd be Window Maker, but I realize it is much too huge (and yet I love it!)

4.) What's wrong with Monkey if you're running from a LiveCD? Seriously?

As for betaFTPd, why not drop it altogether. There's a SSH server in DSL--use that instead.

SSH is secure, effectively eliminates eavesdropping, connection hijacking, and provides a myriad of secure tunneling capabilities.

There are GUI SSH clients that behave exactly like traditional FTP clients and dropping a (imho) worthless FTP server would free up some space.

SSH is smarter, sexier, better and prolongs sexual intimacy--I vote we nuke beatFTPd!

I'll take apache any day over these trimmed versions that have had their wings cut off. Apache can make use of the pear repository, PHP 5 and much much more. Frequent security advisories etc. Serious web designers can't use monkey for anything other than displaying a static homepage (boring).

I see the point of having it as a "proof of concept" web server I guess. Anyway, Xampps is more for that sort of deal.

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Serious web designers can't use monkey for anything other than displaying a static homepage (boring).

Don't serious web designers use PHP or CGI? Monkey supports both...

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Quote (Guest @ Feb. 18 2006,04:14)

Serious web designers can't use monkey for anything other than displaying a static homepage (boring).

Don't serious web designers use PHP or CGI? Monkey supports both...

Only if they want to build a front door to test intrusion detection

I'm going to add to my original thread.

I feel that redundancy in applications (coupled with DSL's size constraints) is stifling DSL growth, here's why...

(1): Monkey (while ok to run from a live CD) is easy to setup, run, and configure straight after iso-burn. However, (as I discovered) there are other HTTP servers available for DSL that are more secure. The point; persons like myself that do frugal installs don't have to worry about...

(A): A hacker starting monkey in order to open an extra backdoor into the
system.

(B): Having yet another application in the way of other applications that we
use.

Monkey is cool for those who run live and are familiar with it. I just think that Monkey belongs as a myDSL download instead... Then use Monkey's old space for other things.

(2): Beaver is cool for anyone who likes to use a GUI text editor, and deserves credit for being a lightweight application. However as with monkey, beaver simply gets in the way for those who don't use it, and may be better placed in myDSL (Which I already know can be said about any application that other users don't use, but read on... I have some suggestions).

(3): Filemanagers/Webrowser - EmelFM is great for a gui-manager, and Firefox is a really cool browser. However, Firefox cannot manage files, and EmelFM cannot browse the World Wide Web... My suggestion here is make these apps available via myDSL and replace the both with a browser such as Konquerer, which can do both... Which might even save some space (I haven't compared the difference).

(4): Filemanagers (command-line) - As put in another topic, Midnight Commander is around 800K in size. Now there's some talk about replcing it with deco (I think the name is). Now, I'm not sure how big deco is, but I have already announced that I have written a filemanager in perl that is not expected to go beyond 10K in size (It has most functions already, but needs some add-ins). This would save a lot of space as the filesize mentioned is the 'uncompressed' size.

Other suggestions - I have read quite a few posts requesting different versions of DSL, requesting different applications, etc (Some even offering pay for the remaster)... Now different people have different uses for DSL... So why not release different versions (IE: a developers version that has various libs, a gaming version for gamers, an enterprise version, etc). Just pick the most popular requests, or offer to remaster by request (for a modest donation of course). In either case it will increase DSL's popularity overall... Just some food for thought.

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